Episodes

Thursday Dec 18, 2025
Thursday Dec 18, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus welcomes Ronald Brenke, PE, Executive Director of the American Council of Engineering Companies of Michigan. Ron offers an inside look at ACEC Michigan’s mission, highlighting its commitment to advancing the business of engineering across a wide range of firms throughout the state. He discusses Michigan’s pressing infrastructure needs, and the critical role engineers play in improving everyday life. The conversation also explores ACEC Michigan’s work at both the national and state levels, along with its efforts to strengthen the engineering workforce through construction science expos, mentorship initiatives, and early career engagement. Ron shares insights on current challenges facing the profession, from labor shortages to the growing influence of AI, and reflects on how associations can help engineers navigate an evolving landscape.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Nov 20, 2025
Advocacy That Works: Building Bipartisan Bridges with Melissa McKinley
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus sits down with Melissa McKinley, President of Kelley Cawthorne, to explore what effective advocacy looks like in today’s polarized political landscape. Melissa shares why bipartisan strategies are more important than ever and highlights the unique influence associations bring to legislative work. She also reflects on her own career path, the role mentorship has played in her growth, and offers practical guidance for emerging leaders in the government affairs space. The conversation wraps with a powerful reminder: strong, consistent relationships with lawmakers are the foundation of meaningful and lasting advocacy.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Monday Oct 27, 2025
Monday Oct 27, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus sits down with Jean Jernigan, CAE, CMP, IOM, President of the Auburn Hills Chamber of Commerce and Chair of the Board for the Michigan Society of Association Executives. Jean reflects on her long-standing involvement with MSAE since 1996, her diverse career path, and the leadership roles that have shaped her journey. The conversation explores member engagement, mentorship, and the impact of community-building initiatives—including the She Leads program for emerging female leaders. Jean also offers perspective on the evolving role of chambers of commerce, the value of creative problem-solving, and how she maintains resilience and balance along the way.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.
Show notes
Jean Jernigan, CAE, CMP, IOM is the President of the Auburn Hills Chamber of Commerce, where she has led exceptional growth—more than doubling membership and revenue. In 2025, she serves as Chair of the Board for the Michigan Society of Association Executives (MSAE) and is the Incoming Chair of the Michigan Association of Chamber Professionals (MACP), a sister organization to the Michigan Chamber of Commerce.
With 20 years of experience in statewide nonprofits, Jean brings expertise in event planning, membership development, business growth, and organizational leadership. A Certified Association Executive and Certified Meeting Planner, she is also a proud graduate of the U.S. Chamber’s Institute for Organization Management.

Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Grassroots Power: How Big I Michigan Supports Agents
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus welcomes Jared Burkhart, CAE, CEO of Big I Michigan. Jared shares how his association advocates for insurance agents, supports their professional growth, and strengthens local communities. The discussion explores the impact of AI on the industry, the challenges of rising insurance costs, and why community-based agents remain so essential. Jared also reflects on his career path and highlights the power of grassroots advocacy in helping members navigate today’s fast-changing landscape.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.
Show notes
Jared Burkhart is the CEO of Big I Michigan, the association for independent insurance agents. Jared's professional mission is to help others achieve at the highest level possible. He has a background in leading successful membership organizations in achieving their mission through data. Jared holds the Certified Association Executive (CAE) designation and is a Past Chairman of the Board of Directors for MSAE.

Thursday Aug 21, 2025
Driving Impact: How Golf Fuels Michigan’s Economy and Communities
Thursday Aug 21, 2025
Thursday Aug 21, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus sits down with Jada Paisley, CMP, executive director of the Michigan Golf Course Association. Jada shares how the organization supports golf course owners and operators while highlighting the industry’s $6 billion economic impact in Michigan—including $1 billion tied to tourism. Despite being a seasonal state, Michigan ranks fourth nationally in golf tourism. The conversation also explores workforce development efforts like the state’s first registered agronomy apprenticeship program, as well as the role golf courses play in community growth and environmental stewardship. Jada closes with a call to young professionals to consider the wide-ranging career opportunities the golf industry has to offer.
This episode is sponsored by Experience Jackson.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Jul 17, 2025
Reimagining the Michigan CPA: Innovation, Advocacy, and AI
Thursday Jul 17, 2025
Thursday Jul 17, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus chats with Bob Doyle, president and CEO of the Michigan Association of CPAs and MSAE board member. Bob shares his unique career journey from engineering to association leadership and offers a look into the mission and work of MICPA—from advocacy and education to building community among CPAs. The conversation also covers how the CPA profession is evolving, including Michigan’s new licensure pathway and the growing importance of embracing AI and innovation in accounting.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Jun 12, 2025
Big Hearts, Big Impact: Advancing Early Education in Michigan
Thursday Jun 12, 2025
Thursday Jun 12, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus welcomes Erica Willard, CAE, executive director of the Michigan Association for the Education of Young Children. Erica shares her journey in early childhood education and highlights Michigan AEYC’s mission to support high-quality learning from birth through age eight. With nearly 4,000 members, the organization focuses on policy, professional development, and advocacy. Erica discusses challenges like undercompensation, key initiatives like the Big Hearts Big Impact Campaign, and her vision for the future—one that strengthens the workforce and advances the profession.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday May 22, 2025
Packaging Smarter: Balancing Protection and Sustainability
Thursday May 22, 2025
Thursday May 22, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus sits down with A.J. Gruber, President and CEO of the International Safe Transit Association (ISTA). A.J. shares how his roots in packaging science at Michigan State University and his early career at UPS led him to champion innovation in transit packaging. Together, they delve into the vital role packaging plays in the global supply chain—especially with the rise of e-commerce—and the growing pressure to balance product protection with environmental responsibility. A.J. highlights ISTA’s efforts to support companies in designing packaging that not only withstands the rigors of transport but also meets sustainability goals and regulatory demands.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Wednesday May 07, 2025
Leading Through Change: The Evolution of the Michigan Mortgage Lenders Association
Wednesday May 07, 2025
Wednesday May 07, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus welcomes Joanne Misuraca, CEO of the Michigan Mortgage Lenders Association (MMLA). Joanne shares the rich history of the MMLA, which began in 1929, and how the organization has evolved to reflect industry shifts and a broader, more inclusive membership. She also reflects on her personal journey, from becoming the association’s first full-time employee in 1995 to helping shape it into what it is today. Joanne gives listeners a look inside the MMLA’s current structure, the benefits of membership, and the vital contributions of its part-time staff and volunteer committees. The conversation also explores standout programs like the Future Leaders Program, the effects of current interest rates on the industry, recent legislative developments, and the value Joanne finds in her membership with MSAE.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Thursday Mar 27, 2025
Honoring Tradition: The History and Future of MFDA with Phil Douma
Thursday Mar 27, 2025
Thursday Mar 27, 2025
In this episode of Insight, host Ariel Backus sits down with Phil Douma, executive director of the Michigan Funeral Directors Association (MFDA). Phil shares the rich history of MFDA, founded in 1880, and its pivotal role in shaping the National Funeral Directors Association. He also reflects on his personal journey to becoming Executive Director, inspired by the loss of his father and his career in funeral services and policy. The conversation covers MFDA’s services, including the master escrow plan for prepaid funerals, trends in funeral director demographics, and relevant regulations. Phil highlights the importance of funeral rituals in the grieving process and discusses the association’s educational and legislative efforts. This episode offers valuable insights into the funeral industry and addresses common questions surrounding this often-overlooked field.
MSAE Insight is produced by Association Briefings.

Meet your host
Today’s rapid advancements in technology, diverse, multigenerational work force, and changing economy present significant challenges for associations and nonprofits. A Certified Association Executive® with 20+ years of experience in nonprofit management, Donna Oser combines business acumen, an entrepreneurial mindset and a creative approach to collaboration to help organizations leverage change to build capacity, grow influence and, ultimately, achieve their unique purposes.






